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Redefining Success in Physical Therapy with Innovation and Self-Care - Anna Friedman
Navigating Entrepreneurship and Wellness with Anna Friedman
Venturing into healthcare entrepreneurship while juggling the joys and challenges of motherhood is a narrative many can relate to but few have mastered like Anna Friedman of Upward Physical Therapy. Join us as Anna shares how she's expanded her practice during uncertain times, embracing a growth mindset and the guidance of Full Draw Consulting. Her journey from corporate life to leading her own practice proves that the right support can turn dreams into reality.
Key Takeaways:
- Navigating Complexities of Practice Expansion
- Embracing a Growth Mindset
- The Importance of Self-Care for Healthcare Providers
- Building a Vision-Aligned Team
- Strategic Decision-Making in Practice Innovation
- Balancing Personal Wellness with Professional Success
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In today's episode we're talking about a growth mindset for private practice owners. So listen, growth mindset isn't anything new. We all understand the concept of growth and having an open mindset, but maybe what's unique about today's episode is the idea of how it hits us in the healthcare field in its own flavor of being fear-based. Obviously, a fear-based mindset is a closed mindset. A courageous mindset is a growth mindset and we're going to talk about Anna.
Speaker 1:Anna Friedman owns Upward Physical Therapy in Seattle, washington and she talks about starting her practice during the pandemic, opening another location and hiring people right before having a baby. You know she's done a couple of professional moves that on paper, wouldn't correlate with some personal events in her life, but she decided to move forward anyway. She's a very courageous individual and her story is going to spark a lot of great interest and question around you and where you are in life. So listen closely to this episode about moments when she's facing a difficult decision and how she handles the fear around it. We're going to talk about decision filters, what decisions we need to make before we even make a decision to make sure that it's a good decision, but we're also going to talk about ways to overcome a limited mindset in today's episode, enjoy. Okay. So, anna, how do you develop yourself as a leader?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I think it's a lifelong process. I don't think one day you're not a leader and the next day you are. I think it's always growing and always being willing to change your mind about things, change your goals, change your vision, and always being a work in progress. And that's true in my personal life and also in my business.
Speaker 1:I love that, so it's a mindset that you've adopted. Is there anything specifically that you do to help you as a leader, develop?
Speaker 2:I'm always looking for new ideas and I like taking classes and definitely having a business coach, I think is very important. I have worked with a couple different ones when developing my practice and I think it's just great to have that accountability and great to have people who you can look up to, who maybe are even just like a couple steps ahead of you, um, or you know a few years ahead in their business, so that they can kind of their boots, have been on the ground and they kind of know where you're coming from and and that's been hugely rewarding that's wonderful.
Speaker 1:Can you give a shout out to your coaches who have you coached with before?
Speaker 2:yeah, um, it's called Full Draw Consulting and I highly recommend them. When I was working at my corporate job and thinking about starting a practice Sarah and Kate are my coaches they had a class called Start your Practice. It was more, at the time, more based on cash practices, but now it's come back to more hybrid practices and it was like an eight week kind of step-by-step module class and just like really broke it down like as far as what you needed for the basics to start a practice and just made it seem a lot more achievable and conceivable for me and that's kind of what made me really decide to do it and go out on my own and with their support. So that was really cool.
Speaker 1:You know that's so smart that you did that, and I will tell you from my personal experience I wish I had found coaches so much earlier, Anna. For me it was such a painful journey trying to do it on my own, and then when you find people who have either done it themselves or helped other people do it, it just turns decades into days. There's a whole movement in our industry right now of young healthcare providers who don't want to open their own practice because they see how hard it is for those who do. But maybe what they're not seeing is that there is a middle ground. You can find people who are going to be powerful to help you develop your dream without sacrificing your personal health or your freedom or your balance. And so it sounds like that was your journey, because you started your practice during the pandemic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it was November 2020. I remember it was July that year that I decided and I was. You know, I had a pretty great push job. I worked at a corporate PT company that had about 25, 30 clinics in the area and I was a clinic director. It was a startup, so I got to design the clinic how I wanted, hired who I wanted. That was all great. Just like during the course of the pandemic, there were some changes that were coming into place, that were coming down the pipe, that I wasn't quite in agreement with and I I also I'm a very creative person and I like to do things a little like outside the mold and I felt like that was tricky to do um with this particular uh company and um, and so I'd always had kind of this entrepreneurial spirit. Um, like, as a kid I had lemonade stands, like every weekend and just to try to get enough money to rent a movie at the local like videos.
Speaker 1:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:And I don't know, I was just always trying to find like creative ways to like make a few bucks here and there just for fun. And yeah, I don't know so, during this time we, yeah, I don't know so I, uh, during this time we were seeing a few less patients. And so I, um, came up with a business plan during that time and, just to for fun, I started working on a website and then finally it came time to make a decision and I I found a little, a little corner office in a in the gym that was very reasonably priced and shout out to Fuel House Gym in Seattle. They're amazing. And I was like, okay, like I think I can actually do this. And I think, like I think I can, and I kind of calculated the number of patients I needed to see to make up my income and it was a lot less patients than I had been expected to see at my other job. So like, okay, why not? Worst that can happen is I just go back and work at another clinic.
Speaker 1:Isn't that so funny? But so many people don't take the jump because they're so scared of what they don't know, whereas you're a unique breed in that sense. You have an organic growth mindset, which is the topic for today. You know, the topic today is how to develop a growth mindset as a private practice owner or future private practice owner. So there's an element of entrepreneurship, that's true, that was existing with you since you were little. But there was also this thing about taking risks that didn't seem to really phase you because in your mind, you were justifying it like yeah, if it doesn't work out, I can always go back and work my other job. So, like, as you're going now and you and I before we got had this episode recording you were talking about expanding to a new location and having a baby.
Speaker 2:You've had quite the growth here the last few years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's definitely been a lot of growth, a lot of changes, and I think with that comes like it's easy to just get caught up in all of it and not really take a step back.
Speaker 2:And I think that's really, really important when you have your own business is to as things change in your life and as you go through different phases of your life, then your goals might change too and where you see your life going in the future. And I think it's really important to keep that vision in mind when you're looking at where you want your business to go. Like I heard, I mean, so many horror stories of people who are like I'm working, you know, a hundred hours a week and like I'm you know why would you want to start your practice. That just sounds terrible and you know, and I I think what I kind of made a deal with myself when I was opening Upward is that I kind of made limits and set boundaries for myself as far as like what that would look like. And yeah, sometimes it's not easy, but I think you live and you learn over time and you make you kind of fine tune things as you go and learn what works and what doesn't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Rockstar is. What Anna's talking about is a decision filter. So this is one of the ways and one of the tools that you can use when you're developing a growth mindset, when you're setting future growth is that you put parameters in place, decisions that like if this, then that occurs. So a decision filter. One of my partners, scott Fritz, who was my coach for over 15 years before he and I started a company together that we still operate, he told me his decision filter is really easy it's have fun, make money, love life and it sounds very soft, but for him he's one of the most objective guys I know and he'll, as he says, tap out the second.
Speaker 1:Some of those filters get pushed up against too consistently Because when you're starting a business, there are times where you're not happy with life, there's times where it's not fun, but there's an overarching decision of like once this becomes a thing that you're questioning constantly. Okay, if I'm putting too much thought into this, it's not working. So you created a decision filter for yourself and I'm guessing that had something to do with your comfort level taking the risk Because you knew you had an agreement with yourself that if you went beyond a certain parameter, you were going to pull the ripcord and not do it anymore. So what were some of those things that you agreed with yourself Like? What were those things that you decided like, hey, I won't get. Once it gets to this point, I won't do this anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I think one thing is my schedule with patients when I'd worked at different clinics before, it was more about we're always open, we're seeing everyone, we're just going to be as broad as possible, and what I wanted with Upward, my vision from the start was I wanted it to feel more specialized and a little more niched down.
Speaker 2:So when patients came in they knew they were getting a special experience and if they wanted just more of a general shop that saw everyone, then they could just go to the clinic down the street. So I limited my patient care hours to hours where I knew that I could get some type of exercise in during the day, like, for example, I I didn't see patients. Like maybe one day a week I worked until like 7 PM, but then like three other days I would be off at like three or four and um and become in early those days so that I could um, make it work for myself and my lifestyle or a certain class that I wanted to take, like a workout class, and so I can make sure and fit those things in that I knew would be important for my physical and mental health and help my patients as well, if I came in with a better mindset going into that patient care day.
Speaker 1:It's amazing that you prioritize without help. It took me a coach to help me see how my physical health was a priority over my business and how it actually aided in its growth or detriment, so I love that. One of your decision filters was this idea of like, yeah, I'm not going to just be everything to everyone. I'm going to love life and or take care of myself in a way that's going to serve me, in a way that will help the patients. I think that's an awesome filter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, and I wanted to practice what I preach too as PTs.
Speaker 2:It's kind of funny, it's very ironic, because I feel like so many of us feel so burnt out in jobs where we're kind of churning through patients that a lot of PTs don't really have the chance to work out or do like live that healthy lifestyle that they.
Speaker 2:You know that we teach our patients to live and um and working really long hours, and so like I wanted to be able to kind of show my patients like oh, I just got back from a run, or like, yeah, I went on this hike this weekend and I actually had the energy to do it, um and like have my own goals, so that that would show, and like the energy behind that would show with um, with my patients too. And you know, and now we have a lot of people that come in after seeing other PTs because and the PTs will refer them to us because you're like I know this is what you guys do, and like you guys work with runners, because you're like I know this is what you guys do, and like you guys work with runners, you guys work with hikers, like we can only take them so far because we don't have this specialized experience.
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Speaker 1:Interesting how your prioritization to make sure that you were living life at a level that you wanted also resulted in a niche development of clients, because you wanted to be an example to them. I've never heard of that before, anna. That's really cool. So let me ask you this so you were treating like most PT owners do. You're treating full-time, You're running around, you find out, you're expecting and somewhere along those lines you're hiring people and you're expanding into a new clinic. Can you talk a little bit about the growth mindset shift that you had to make from going from a self-employed PT owner to stepping more into being a business owner, where you had to, out of necessity, because you were having a child start supervising other people?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, like I said, I opened in November 2020. I didn't think I would hire anyone because at that point I was pretty I'm done with being someone's boss and kind of managing people and I was like I'm just going to do this head down and treat the patients I want to treat, not have to worry about it. But after about six months I started kind of getting up against those schedule barriers that I set for myself and I started being like okay, I guess I'll come in early, I guess I'll stay late, and you have to do that somewhat as a business owner, like. But I started to notice that it wasn't fun, like it was becoming not fun anymore and for me that that's a big red flag as far as like, like that's not why I did this, like I wanted it to be enjoyable and how can I help that? And so that was when I was like either I need to just be okay, saying no and having a long wait list, or I need to hire someone. And I decided and I was also thinking like it would be kind of nice if I were to go on vacation I was, when I was making this decision, planning a trip to France with some girlfriends and I was like it would be nice if it wasn't just like the business had to shut down when I left on this trip, and so that helped with my decision too. And so I found someone who had a very similar kind of vision for the way that she wanted to treat patients and just kind of niche down working with these outdoor and endurance athletes, and she had her own specialty in bike fits and biking and I thought that could be a great add-on to what I was already doing. And so I hired her and never looked back. That's been amazing.
Speaker 2:And then, when I was pregnant and thinking about going out on leave again, we were kind of in this state of almost bursting at the seams, like okay, we have patients who can't get in for at least a month, maybe more. I'm about to go on leave. I wasn't seeing a full caseload, but I was probably seeing like 25 patients a week, something like that, and I needed somewhere for my patients to go. So I ended up hiring a couple of part-time VTs and it was funny, I trained both of them. So I ended up hiring a couple of part-time VTs, and it was funny, I trained both of them, and then the day I was done training, I went into labor.
Speaker 2:Oh man, and it was two and a half weeks early. So I told them, yeah, we'll have plenty of time for you to settle in and you can get to know my patients and we'll have this nice for you to settle in and, like you can shadow, like get to know my patients and we'll have this nice smooth transition. And that didn't happen. So the way that they found out I wasn't coming in was I was texting them from the hospital like sorry guys, like here's the baby and like I won't be in for a while now.
Speaker 1:But how amazing that you had that built out or you had the systems and you had the people right in the right place, but it started and Rockstars I want to highlight this with Anna is that one of the things that she did to shift her mindset was to say no. There's a point at which a growth mindset is about saying no to things, and that's something that we're discovering in your story, anna, because, like you said, starting back off, when you were in that gym, you were at a point where it was no longer fun. So what are you tolerating? It was almost like this discussion you had with yourself of what am I tolerating right now that is making it not fun, and it was well.
Speaker 1:I'm tolerating working longer hours. I'm tolerating living at a level I don't want to, and so there's a lot of PTs who are listening and saying, well, I don't want to do those things either. But I think there's a distinction there of understanding the power of saying no, not being everything to everyone so that we can be a real powerful influence on a select few. So yeah, so talk a little bit about, operationally, how you had to shift. You have a baby now you've come back, you've got additional employees. You can't go back to running the things the way you were doing them.
Speaker 2:No, yeah. So in a way it was like a forced break for me to be able to let go of some control, which can be hard for me. But in this case it was such a blessing because I got to see how empowered my employees were, how they came together as a team. I remember I met with them on Zoom six weeks after my baby was born and they were like we didn't think you would come back this soon, or like we weren't expecting this, and I was like, but I just want to make sure you guys are doing okay. And like, if there's anything big like I'm still here, don't forget. And but they had it and it was so smooth.
Speaker 2:And then, like a couple months later, when I slowly started coming back to seeing patients, it was, it was so nice and so so relieving because I felt like anytime I wanted to go on vacation or if we were to have another kid, like, um, I feel like I have put those systems in place and my employees feel empowered and feel like they kind of know how things are run and they know that I'm there to support them when I can, but they know that I trust them too, and also during that time so we were still in this gym with three rooms at the time.
Speaker 2:I started with one and we moved up to three, but there were five of us employees, uh, or five PTs, I mean and around that time, when I came back from leave, I I started noticing that like it was still fine where we were, but I felt kind of this stifling feeling.
Speaker 2:I think that's kind of when I another signal for me that something's not right is when I start to feel a little like I would love to do X, y and Z, or I'd love to do this community event or this class or an open house, but not feeling like we could because the space, there was no public area for us to do those things, or like I'd like to add other disciplines, like maybe massage or something, but we can't really do that here because you know there's already.
Speaker 2:There were like 10 different practitioners within the space, like 10 rooms you could rent out, and there were a couple of massage therapists and there were other PTs who had their own business and we were the only one that had more than one one practitioner in the business, and so I just felt like we were kind of starting to slowly like expand beyond the bounds of this place and people like people, of course, enjoyed having us there, but I think it was definitely kind of like okay, like what do you guys like? It's almost time for you guys to move on to bigger and better.
Speaker 1:Like everyone could see that you clearly weren't like fitting into your britches, so to speak, and they're just like when are you guys going to maybe expand and become a real yeah?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it was basically a shoo-in for me because I knew the owners of this other PT clinic that were also moving to a bigger space down the road and I reached out to them once because the owner has mentored me some and I really appreciate him. But he was like, or I asked like, just just so you know, we're thinking about maybe moving sometime soon, Like, do you know of anything available? Or, if you do, just let me know. And he was like, actually this might be perfect timing because we are probably going to move and so our space might be available. And it was, yeah, it was super cool. But that kind of gave me this realization of like, oh no, this could actually be real, or like you know it's. It's one thing if you're just looking at places for fun and it's another thing if it's like we might actually need to do this.
Speaker 1:It becomes a lot more real.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so I looked at comps in the area. I spent like months looking, looking around and um, so I was like this is just too easy, like it doesn't usually just like fall into your lap like this, and, um, something must be wrong, you know. And and I would just try to like find every excuse to not pick the easy place, which is kind of funny. Um, but eventually, you know, I think, and I think it was good, I looked around to kind of see what else was available, but eventually I just came to the realization that like why not? And it's like the perfect spot for us, and I geared my employees up and gave them a tour here and made sure that they were bought into and also, like got their input as far as where things might go, and like I want them to be part of the vision, too, of the practice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's a big part of developing leaders. Our number one job as leaders is to develop more leaders, and getting their input is an essential step into getting them not just like create but to buy in, because what someone helps create they buy into and rock stars. One thing I want to point out here, as we're talking about growth mindset with Anna, is that there's a balance between saying no and saying yes. I think oftentimes most physical therapy, most healthcare providers in general, are people pleasers. They have a hard time saying no in general, like it's one of those where they might say yes to an opportunity and they don't know how to say no to other things. And that's what's hard is that we can't say yes to one thing without saying no by default to others.
Speaker 1:If we're running around trying to say yes to everything around us, we start throwing our decision filter out the window. What really matters to us and what I love about your story, anna, is this idea that you said yes to a vision and you said yes to big risks when, logically it made sense, no matter how scary it was, whether it was expanding to a new business or starting your business. Hiring your first coach probably was scary. I'm sure it cost you money in a way that you didn't know if you could afford, but you were saying yes to those things because it aligned with the vision and your decision filter right.
Speaker 2:Yes, definitely, and that's what I try to base all of my decisions around is my values, like my values and my just life in general, and then also just what goals I have for the future for the practice, and if it doesn't align with that, then it's usually a no, unless there's some way to work that in somehow. For example, one thing I'm debating right now is adding an infrared sauna and a cold plunge pool into my practice A little more of the wellness component, I guess, and making it more of like a recovery space for our patients. But it's a big expense and it's like 10, at least 10 grand, something like that. And so that's something I'm researching heavily and thinking about and thinking about if it's worth like a short-term hit for possibly a long-term gain gain, because it's something not a lot of people have in their area.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that idea because, like, this isn't as big as like opening another location or starting a business, but it's still a decision. Anna, would you be willing to let me share with you my decision filter that I ripped off from a book called the Gap in the Gain with Dan Sullivan. Do you mind if I share that with you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, go for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so there's it with Dan Sullivan. Do you mind if I share that with you? Yeah, go for it. Yeah, so there's. It's a. It came from this book and so, like in your case, you go off of your vision and your values. This is an actual like seven question piece that's in that book. It's like.
Speaker 1:Number one is this opportunity, person, expense, adventure, experience, relationship or commitment aligned with my values? That's what you said right out of the gate, anna, and if it's no, we stop immediately. The second is will this opportunity take advantage of my unique ability and make me even stronger? Will it lengthen my stride? Number three how will this opportunity benefit mankind? Is there a bigger cause or purpose that this will benefit society? Number four does it make financial sense? Number five is this transactional or transformational? In other words, is this a standalone opportunity or a gateway to opportunity? And number six, my favorite if I say yes to this, what must I say no to? So, just from a place of practicing that out, what were your thoughts on this decision when you heard those questions? Did any of those ring like oh yeah, that's a definite yes. Or did you have any red flags on those questions when you were thinking about that filter as it pertains to this decision of introducing this additional service.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, I felt like if I do something like this, I guess part of my overall vision is to create more of a comprehensive space that is very community oriented for outdoor endurance athlete types of all levels and create a space where they come and don't just think physical therapy like traditional injury rehab, but also a space they could come learn from a workshop or another healthcare provider or mixers and things like that, and a space that they can come and relax at other times or maybe take classes.
Speaker 2:And when I think about this recovery room or whatever space I haven't come up with a name yet I just think it would be a nice way to not have to add another practitioner and not have the variance of that um and then be able to offer it as an add-on, which would be a cash pay add-on, for people to come like before or after a session or even just schedule on their own when they're not even coming in for an appointment.
Speaker 2:So in that way I think it's a good. I can't remember the exact point from what you mentioned before, but I think it could be really beneficial long-term. It's an upfront cost, but then if you do um based on what people are charging for things like this and and also the like health benefits for people too, like there's there's been a lot of research on um, just how it can help with the healing process both body, mind, a lot of different things able to give people that type of experience and at our practice and have it be something people talk about like hey, did you know upward has this and, like you know, nobody else in the area has it and um, and I think it could just be a great like teaching moment too for um, for our patients and just for the community to offer something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you've sold me on it. It's interesting too because, as you're going through your response to that question, listen to this. Is the opportunity aligned with your values? Obviously yes. Will it take advantage of your unique ability? Yeah, creating a vision for your community is one of your unique abilities. Will it benefit mankind? You talked about the research helping people physically, spiritually and mentally right. Like these things are going to benefit human beings. Does it make sense financially? You talked about being a cash pay option right. Is this transactional or transformational? That's what you were hinting at earlier. This idea of like it's going to transform the business and the way you're perceived, because people are like oh my gosh, have you tried it?
Speaker 2:Now the big question is if you say yes to this, anna, what would you have to say no to? I'd probably have to say, because we would be giving up one of our treatment rooms.
Speaker 1:So you're saying no to what could possibly happen in that room and how do you feel about that and how does that feel? It's pretty small.
Speaker 2:It sounds like it's pretty small, at least I feel okay about it, because there's actually two rooms we're not using right now. Oh, there you go, and so that's one of them. The other one is, I think, where I'd put more of like it might be like a round robin of massage, or one or two days a week, something like that. I think it could work and I think like yeah, I think, and I've also been doing some market research, going to different spaces around Seattle that have these offerings and it's mostly like wellness clinics, that like it's a sauna space and that's all they have they have available in those spaces, and just to kind of be able to give it the take that I think we could have on it. That would be a little bit different and unique too.
Speaker 1:I love it. So it sounds like the filter, your ability to stay in the growth mindset, you've got the parameters in place and, at the end of the day, guys, it's one of those things where we never know until we try. You know, it's totally true that no matter how much it meets a filter, no matter how excited we are about a vision, sometimes ideas don't work. But how do they really not work? It's like if they don't work but they lead us to solving some other problem, or if they teach us something about what we shouldn't be doing, it's still valuable information. So, Anna, I experienced you as someone with a very powerful growth mindset. What would you say to someone who maybe struggles with more of a fixed mindset? How would you advise them to go from a fixed mindset to a growth mindset? Any ideas?
Speaker 2:I mean, I think I would just think about, basically, if you're not taking any kind of risk or not going for it or saying yes to something, then you're not going to grow or learn or um, or or just see what's around the corner.
Speaker 2:Like if, if you're, if you're just kind of stuck in status quo and you feel like you're not inspired or you're not like feeling alive or that energy of um, of something new and exciting, um, then it's just very hard to come out of that without taking some kind of risk. And also I would say, like everybody makes mistakes, like I've definitely tried some things that haven't worked out, like I've had workshops that a couple of people came to and you know, but that I still, like those people really appreciated it, they learned a lot, I was able to give them a lot more one-on-one attention and, um, you know, sometimes they become patients too, or maybe you tweak it a little bit for next time or do it in a different format. So I think, like you have to put yourself out there to really know what works and what doesn't and and help form where you're going.
Speaker 1:I love that, because the whole idea about being in a growth mindset is movement, there's motion and there's movement. Right, rockstars, we can be busy, very busy, but we don't ever move. It's movement that matters most, and movement never happens without taking risk, and risk never happens without having fear. So I think a good summary for today's episode Rockstars is the idea that to know if we're operating in a fixed mindset is are we listening to the fear in a way that keeps us from moving towards something we want? Because in Anna's case and I've seen this recently I spoke at a university recently and the student rose his hand and he's like my dream was to open a practice, but there's no way I'm doing it after seeing this one guy and I said my gosh. One negative experience that someone else went through is enough to limit you from wanting to go for your dream of having what Anna and I both appreciate, which is freedom. You and I appreciate not just the bike rides, but the chance to be on an episode together in the middle of the day. This is something that we get to do because we value freedom above all things, and it's not at the expense of patient care. It's actually because we're able to provide even better patient care. So, rock stars, this has been a very powerful episode with Anna.
Speaker 1:My question to you at the end of this episode, listeners, is what is it in your life that's holding you back? What fears do you have that you're letting limit you and you're tolerating because we're only as great as we tolerate? What is it that you're tolerating because we're only as great as we tolerate? What is it that you're tolerating? What relationship, what individual, what possible outcome that we're afraid of happening is holding us in our seat, and what's the risk that you want to take If you could remove fear right now, what is the risk that you would want to take on towards a vision or a dream of yours that would make it worthwhile, because, in the end, we can always go back to the current status quo. We can always go back to what we were previously doing, right. So, anna, thank you so much for a wonderful episode. I sure appreciate you being on the show.
Speaker 2:Thanks so much, Will I really appreciate it.
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