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Transforming Mindsets for Entrepreneurial Growth with Stacey Steinmiller
Breaking Mental Barriers with Stacey Steinmiller: A Guide for Healthcare Entrepreneurs
In this episode, psychotherapist-turned-business coach Stacey Steinmiller unpacks common mental blocks holding entrepreneurs back, from scarcity mindset to fears of inauthenticity. By understanding these barriers, you’ll gain insights into fostering a healthier relationship with money, avoiding burnout, and redefining leadership as calm, resilient strength.
Key Takeaways:
- Shift to a growth-oriented approach for personal and professional expansion.
- Understand how past experiences impact your mindset, allowing for transformative personal growth.
- View challenges as opportunities for creativity, fostering a resilient and joyful entrepreneurial spirit.
- Focus on flexibility rather than rigid planning to reach goals with ease.
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Welcome to today's episode Rockstars. Our guest is Stacey Steinmiller, a psychotherapist who had a private practice for years specializing in helping people overcome trauma. She now is a business coach for RadicalLifeCoachingcom and she has been an expert at helping healthcare entrepreneurs overcome their mental blocks to help them achieve what they're looking for out of life. She is going to do live coaching on me, guys, during today's episode. I'm going to share vulnerably, some past trauma and she's going to show you, through my modeling, how she's helping people overcome these barriers to achieve what they want out of life. This is one of the most important types of coaching I experienced, so I want you to pay close attention to her description of the different types of blocks and traumas that we have that limit us as entrepreneurs. So if you've ever felt stuck, this is your episode. This is something that is going to be transformative. So, guys, enjoy the show.
Speaker 2:I love physical therapy and I love personal training actually, and share that with you. So I've worked with personal trainers and so forth. So I really like that intersection of healing from injury with physical therapists and then continuing on with some sort of strength training right to help prevent injury.
Speaker 1:Do you have experience with PT you?
Speaker 2:sound like you really understand it. Yeah, here I am, like pretending I'm a PT expert.
Speaker 1:No, I love how you connected that because I was like that was an expert observation. So I just wondered maybe you were a patient. Sometimes people who speak into it like that have had therapy.
Speaker 2:I've been to PT before, so I used to be a runner. I wonder what you guys say about us. You don't have to tell me we love runners. Are you kidding?
Speaker 1:No, we love athletic populations. What's really hard for us, stacey, is the opposite, where we have sedentary people who are just like it's either rusting or wearing out. Right, so, like runners, wear out because they're just super, yeah, that's awesome. So you're a runner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I used to. I was a trial runner. I went up to running a 50K, but prior to doing that, I kept injuring myself. I IT banned issues, which was my glutes were not strong enough, my hips were not strong enough, right, so I was trying to run too fast and too far for what my body was capable of doing. So I had found myself in physical therapy a couple of times and so I finally really learned like, cece, you need to do more strength training, like you need to make that a priority because this is not serving you.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I've learned the hard way. And then I see other people doing it and back when I had worked at clinic mental health, it was probably similar population, like the more sedentary and people that had like, maybe disabilities and so forth. And so I've just always been into health in general, not just mental health but physical health and so forth. So, yeah, I recommend people to go to PT all the time. Whenever somebody's like, oh, this hurts, I'm like you should get a referral for PT. And then I'm like then don't stop. Then you know, do some personal training after, and then you won't have this problem ever again.
Speaker 1:Well, it's so cool that you get that connection as a previous patient that like there's a mental aspect of physical therapy and as someone who had a psychotherapy practice, you see the parallels in a way that I don't. I have been through various counselors and I've done therapy in various forms but you really get. You had your own practice, a cash pay business, so you understand the outpatient healthcare world and even that connection between physical therapy and the type of therapy that you used to do as a clinician. So, yeah, I appreciate the fact that you love our industry so much. That's great, I do, I do, yeah. So now obviously you've evolved and you no longer run that practice and now you're coaching entrepreneurs in various forms. Healthcare is where you were born and planted. So I would love to hear a little bit about common mindset blocks. As someone who's been a psychotherapist, who's worked with people on the entrepreneur levels, are there common mental blocks that entrepreneurs have that maybe other people don't, or is that? Does it not matter?
Speaker 2:You know, I think that's actually a good question, like discerning, like is this just entrepreneurs or is it other people too? And that's good, because my gut says that everybody has this. But becoming an entrepreneur is like shining a spotlight on the problem, right? Whereas if you're not an entrepreneur, you probably have these limitations, but there's nothing, spot you know, like we making it known if that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I totally get that. What I always tell my team is that when we are company is starting to go sideways, it always will amplify our weakness, and so maybe that's a similar concept.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and as we grow and kind of like getting to that higher level yeah, it's going to be all our weaknesses are like oh crap, like I didn't know that was here. Yeah, I guess that was my experience anyway. Like, oh, I thought I like really had this down. I guess I don't.
Speaker 1:Or we didn't even know what we needed to have down Like. For me, that was my big thing was like crap. I didn't know I was supposed to. When I started becoming an entrepreneur, I had no idea what I was getting myself into.
Speaker 2:I know my philosophy is if we did know what we were getting into, we would have done it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, know what we were getting into, we wouldn't have done it. But one mindset thing I will highlight, that I always highlight, is the scarcity mindset, the not enough, you know. So, if it's not enough clients, it's not enough time and not enough money, like this whole idea that we live in this scarce world instead of more abundance and opportunity. And what happens is, when we live in a mindset of scarcity, there's an effect on the body. This is the interesting conversation right, like, yeah, you're in more of this fight or flight mode, so your muscles are tensing more. Right, like it's affecting your digestion, your muscles, and then you're kind of walking around, you know, in this anxious, this like low-level anxious state all the time. And that, I think, is probably the biggest issue that entrepreneurs get stuck up on.
Speaker 1:Well, I feel like you're talking to me directly. I honestly, today's episode, I think, is more for me than anyone else. I'm glad anyone else who's listening will get something out of this. But it's so true because I you know what's hard too is that it's not like it goes away when you get successful. You know, I've grown and sold numerous companies and growing various ones now, but I find myself focusing on what I don't have, and I do think there's kind of like this low level anxiousness that I'll tend to carry if I'm not careful. And I was just recently reminded with one of my coaches I always have a coach, it was yesterday. She said you know, don't forget that one of the greatest regrets at the end of our lives is this thing about how we many people say they just wish they had let themselves be happier along the way. So you see that as a so the scarcity mindset isn't unique to entrepreneurs, but it is something that gets amplified. Is what you're saying when you see people starting companies and running them?
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, because when you're working a nine to five or whatever the hours is, if you're getting, if you're a W-2 employee, right, you have a steady paycheck right and so that gives you this sense of security right Of, like you know, your paycheck's coming, like, yes, people might develop fears about losing their job and things like that, but for the most part you have this ongoing. Well, if I show up to work and I do a good enough job, I get my paycheck in and that creates a sense of safety and security. And in order for our bodies to relax, they must feel safe. So this is kind of me bringing my trauma specialty I don't know if I mentioned that. So my therapy practice I specialized in trauma, complex PTSD and so forth. So we need that safety to relax.
Speaker 2:And then when you become an entrepreneur, you don't get those paychecks right. You have to create the paychecks. Paychecks are, you know, almost never the same right. It's your, so you lose. Like all that bottoms out and I didn't realize for me and, I think, a lot of people, how much we really relied on that safety component of the paycheck until it's not there. And then the clients I got to find the clients and then you get the clients and are they going to keep coming? I remember having these things like what if all my clients one day called and all stopped coming to therapy?
Speaker 1:at the same time.
Speaker 1:The what ifs my favorite was because I literally lived in fear of this was what if I walked in and, like those three people that are like the house of cards of my team quit? I'm like, what am I going to do? Because I was already running so thin and like running energy-wise, next to nothing. So, yeah, it's interesting to hear you describe it so simply and I don't think anyone's listening Rockstars, I'm sure you're listening to this going. Yeah, that makes sense, but isn't it fascinating just to see how that simple process breaks down to the physiological level? Because that's a big thing in the PT space. Most PTs are into this because they're fascinated by the human body, but we love it because of the emotional impact we make on our patients. So it's kind of funny how you're just on the opposite side of the same coin, which is that in your therapy practice you're helping people psychologically but also observing their physiological improvements, probably as a result of their gains.
Speaker 2:Yes, definitely. And yeah, there's one thing I want to say on that, because, yeah, so I worked with a personal trainer for about two and a half three years, somewhat recently and I didn't I don't think I knew I had back muscles Right, like I was like what are these things I just behind me? I never had that experience before, which was obviously great for my posture and things like that. But there was this confidence component that came with developing back muscles. I just I felt more in my body right Instead of I don't know somewhere in the clouds, because I felt more grounded, being stronger. I felt these muscles in my back, you know, pulling my chest, you know, is out. I felt more confident. And so, yeah, I love that intersection between the mental health component and the physical health component and how they work together, like that. But that's, I use that example a lot because I don't know it's. I find it funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's true, and I honestly, even in the physical therapist world, like we, we were really good at what we do and horrible patients. So when we do go through those experiences, we we have a very similar experience. So I am fascinated, Stacey, by this way that you help entrepreneurs Because coaching is such a generalized term and as you help entrepreneurs, especially in the healthcare space, I imagine that the scarcity mindset shows up for them in a couple of ways. You illustrated fear of not having enough patients or whatever. What other mental blocks do you find get in the way of entrepreneurs when they're trying to grow their practice?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, my first thought was the money component, like the relationship with. I feel like we have to talk about that too, although I feel like it does relate to scarcity, but it's kind of like a specific, you know, focus within the scarcity which I think I mentioned when we were chatting earlier. I remember working with coaches and they're like you need to raise your rates, well, and this also relates to burnout too, right? So it's almost like this working backwards thing. That I really like is how much money do I need to make in a year? Right?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:For to, to not to survive To survive. So when people are like well, you know, I can survive off 30 grand a year or so. Right, like they do this stuff. Right, instead of like what again? Like what number would make would allow my muscles to relax? Oh my gosh, there are rock stars.
Speaker 1:I'm interrupting because that is so big. What is the money that you need to make just to make your muscles relax? What's that financial number that's going to throw your parasympathetic into gear so you can just chill out? And yes, I'm talking to myself, as I'm talking to my audience, so keep going. Sorry, this was gold.
Speaker 2:No, I love that. No, because that's huge to highlight. Yeah, so then. So, then it's first, you know, so I'm sure a number comes to your mind and then you're going to have this like internal script. That's like what, what is that like?
Speaker 2:that's so big, right right so yeah, so it's like allowing that number to come out saying it writing down, you know getting. It's like you got to like train your nervous system to get used to it and then work backwards from there. So you know, if I saw X amount of clients a week at this amount of money, you know to kind of like oh, and also put in at least six weeks vacation, right.
Speaker 2:So, you know, take that 52 and minus six from that, you know, so that you work in your self-care into your schedule. So maybe I'm kind of transitioning into the mindset of entrepreneurs. That's like go, go, go. I got to like work, work, work. You know there are no breaks right. That like hustle and grind culture and like stepping away from that because it's just not sustainable, and you know that's it puts you at risk of, you know, losing your practice of losing those great, the staff members that you were talking about. Like, well, man, what if these three you know key people left? Like, well, they're going to be more likely to leave if you are stressed out all the time and then you're more frustrated and you're yelling and you're, you know, like- yeah, and you don't see.
Speaker 1:You're so stressed that you don't see the forest from the trees and you're missing opportunities. That would be fun. That would create connection and cultural experiences for them to stay. I love that.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I'm setting myself up to make enough for me to feel supported, so that I can show up in a way that I'm doing the self-care to prevent the burnout. Then I can really step into the leader that I desire to be right, because I see leadership as an energy more than anything.
Speaker 1:You see leadership as an energy, more than anything. You see leadership as an energy my gosh, okay, I don't do this with every day. I'm like literally just processing that. So what does that mean to you? I have my own thoughts on that, but like, when you say leadership is an energy, how does that look when it's an effective leader?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so for me that looks like I envision someone that well, they have good posture. I guess back to the physical. So they have this like strong presence, but calm presence. So it's someone that I can respect, right. So if I see them as strong, I respect them and which is really important for me because I can be a little judgmental.
Speaker 1:I think everyone is. As a matter of fact, it's so funny because we all do this regardless, in my opinion that the second we see someone new, we may not even be conscious to it, but we just assess threats if we're in a scarcity mindset, or opportunity if we're in a growth mindset.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, I love that. So, so, yeah, so then, when somebody kind of has a strong demeanor, we can respect them. But calm is also strength too, because you know leaders that are like running around like a chicken with their head cut off, right, like, right, I don't respect them because clearly I'm like well, you're clearly not managing your time, well, you're not right, like there's this immediate. So how am I going to come to you and ask you a question if I'm unsure of something, or if I'm struggling, right, like I no longer feel safe, you know, on an emotional level, right, not that I'm going to get like hit, or you know, I'm not saying like safe in that way, but I don't feel emotionally safe to come ask you a question because I'm probably just going to get this stressed out response, or I'm going to feel dismissed and unimportant, right, it's not going to hit me. Well.
Speaker 2:So that's where, like, the calm but yet strong demeanor is so important. What it does is it invites people to come to you, right? Then they're like, hey, well, you know, I'm working with this client and this is what's going on, and we feel stuck here, like you know, what are your suggestions? You're available to be that supportive mentor for them and then they grow, and then their clients benefit and then your business benefits, right, because now you're bringing in good business, right. So it's really important to step into the mentor coach role as a leader, more so, I think, than like kind of focusing on all the a manager of duties and tasks yes, exactly a leader versus a manager.
Speaker 1:and it's so cool because in the PT space I know everyone listening has a really good grip on understanding this concept of what their patient experience should look like, because they know when they win, their patients leave the clinic and say, wow, I had more mental therapy done today than physical therapy, because we understand that body-mind connection. But it's also about creating that space for people to feel safe to suffer, because they come to our clinics to suffer. Well, life is suffering. So when we as leaders create what you're describing, I see that doing the same thing where we're intentionally creating an environment where people feel seen and heard and loved and a calm leader, the way you're describing it.
Speaker 1:What's funny is I'm very hyperactive, so I actually don't feel like that's. I feel like it's still congruent in my own way, because when I am high energy but it's positive and fun, it's not running around with my head cut off. It's very much like funny and like connecting. And then when someone brings something to me in that space, I have you have the ability, regardless of your natural leadership style, to just be with people in a way to where they feel safe, feel heard and talk about retention. You know we try to solve these problems with more doing this. Let's create, you know, compensation plans and leadership programs and all these things and those are important. But the calm leader is quietly connecting one-on-one and slowing time down to understand what's the most important thing in the world, which is the person right in front of them, right, and then helping them grow. So I'm amazed at I feel like we could come back and do a whole different episode Stacey, on just how people relate to money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, I know that's a huge one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because, as you were saying that I felt sick to my stomach, which I've learned through my own therapy, means that there's an emotional relationship to what you just said. I'm like, oh yeah, like there's something about that there. But OK, so scarcity mindset it shows up initially like money for a lot of people. Is there any other? What other roadblocks or key roadblocks do you see with entrepreneurs as you're working with them?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the money scarcity, then, like we said it kind of, then we go into this burnout.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you did start putting into that. So the burnout mindset is one that is a resulting factor, got it?
Speaker 2:Right. And then I think another big one is like the authenticity piece, like how to be authentically yourself.
Speaker 1:Deeds man, it's like you're speaking to my soul.
Speaker 2:I'm just like reading your mind right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, seriously, I feel like everyone else is listening to me. Get a free session. Yeah, I feel like I personally, like I'm responding, like I'm your patient. I personally feel, but I do feel like over years that's something that's gotten better with age for me. The older I get, the easier it is for me to be authentic. But, dude, I think back to my younger days when you said that I just felt sick again because it was like me trying to be everything to everyone looked like a lot of different masks. It's part of that running around with your head cut off too.
Speaker 2:Do you want me? I mean, this is totally up to you and how vulnerable you want to be on your podcast.
Speaker 1:Do you want me to like?
Speaker 2:dig into that a little bit. A hundred percent, okay, cool, so, um, so yeah, this like younger version of you, right when you kind of started out. So how, how old is? That kind of brought that like sick to your stomach feeling up Like how old is that I had an exact like.
Speaker 1:As soon as you said that, I was like yeah, I was like eight to 10.
Speaker 2:I had an exact like. As soon as you said that, I was like yeah, I was like eight to 10. Okay, awesome, so, yeah, so I want you to picture him. I remember it sounds like you already got the picture of him.
Speaker 1:Totally.
Speaker 2:And what, what does?
Speaker 1:that eight to 10 year old will need to know in order for his muscles to relax. He needed to know that he was on people's radar. I needed to know. I'm a third born out of four and I have much older siblings, so when I was hitting that eight to 10-year mark they were in those teenage years, my older siblings and I know now, as a parent of four boys myself, what my parents kind of were going through, because that's an incredibly difficult time when your first kids become teenagers. They're pulling away, they're challenging authority. But the resulting factor was like hey guys, I'm over here, you know, trying to get attention and be relative. So things that I was concerned about were often not intentionally and not negatively I have amazing parents but just dismissed. It was very much just like, yeah, whatever, just get in the corner, get out of my hair, kind of thing. And so that 8 to 10-year-old really wanted to just know that he mattered, that people could see him. Yeah, matter that people could see him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and does that eight to 10 year old? Does he know about your, all your practices?
Speaker 2:and your businesses now, like does he know that you accomplished all this? No, all right. So there's the work. I won't push you further than that, but like.
Speaker 2:So this is kind of where I can bring in some of that therapy stuff in the coaching is because what I find is when we kind of leave parts of ourselves in the past right, and don't get that knowledge not just in our head, I mean, obviously you're like in your head. You're like, yes, I know I'm a successful business, owner of these physical therapy practices, et cetera. But yeah, that gut, like, does your gut now, which is that part of yourself that like eight to 10, you know your old self, and kind of bringing those components into your life now? Because once that younger you knows, oh, I'm safe, now I'm seen, now I do have the money coming in my family's, okay, you know all of this Then that's when things really start to shift. Like you said earlier, this thing of like, yeah, it doesn't matter how much money I make or how successful I am, there's always that like fear running in the background. Well, that's because not all of you is in 2024, you know.
Speaker 1:You know what Stacey. So this is brilliant, and I'm not exaggerating when I say this. I drove into work today and I didn't know we were going to go this route. Obviously in the conversation, but I literally thought to myself I wonder what the younger version of me would think about how I'm living my life right now.
Speaker 1:And that was because I got coached yesterday and the big thing for me right now was to introduce fun more into my life, and so that's why it was on top of mind. It was coming in, going. What would the? I was thinking more like early high school but like what would that guy think of me right now? And it was pretty judgmental. If I'm being honest, I'm going to be 100% authentic, since we're on that topic, but I was disappointed. I was like I wish he would have more fun. I. It's so funny as you're talking about this.
Speaker 1:All this resonates because a little bit of what drives me is even doing the show is because I'm trying to put myself on a radar right. And then the money piece ties into the fact that my parents struggled financially greatly during those years. Really was a hot topic, so couldn't afford. Things would remind me of that very lovingly and they were just. I thought they handled things perfectly in that regard, but I was still aware of their suffering.
Speaker 1:And so there's this relationship with money where I'm just like you know, there's a certain amount that like to be really direct with you. I have a vision of a very large impact, and it's not all negative. By the way, I think there's a lot of positive things around it, but, yeah, I can see where the lack of fun comes in. To play around this thing called wanting to be on radar, more important, to be validated slash, wanting to have money so that we don't suffer. And yeah, I really appreciate you kind of taking me back to that kid, because it seems like I need to spend a little bit of time catching them up and what's going on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, where it's safe to be fun, like this isn't your problem to deal with, like we are okay, we are safe and I like how you brought up, like your parents handled it really well. But when you're an empathetic person, when you're an intuitive person, you know, I often I think therapists make the mistake of like, oh well, if you have this issue, it means you experienced this, you know big trauma, right, or something like that, and that could be confusing. When you're big trauma, right, or something like that, and that could be confusing. When you're like wait, no, my parents did handle this really well and I'm a parent now and honestly, I can't think of another way to handle it better Right.
Speaker 2:And then it can. You know it can feel real spiraling sometimes, at least for me I'm like wait a minute. But I think that's just part of being having a big heart, is you pick up on those things and you take on that responsibility. You know, unconsciously, right. So it doesn't mean that you've had to have this huge traumatic childhood in order to struggle with these things. It means, like you felt their stress. You know they didn't want to be struggling financially with four children, like that's or wait was yeah, you know they, they didn't want to be struggling financially with four children. Like that's or wait was yeah, you're the third or fourth, yeah, so, and then you have four. So I was, I was like wait a minute. Did I say that? Right?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Very parallel.
Speaker 1:Very parallel, yeah, but the thing that you said, that, stacey, that brought tears to my eyes was in it, cause I felt it emotionally all the way to where it just felt like on nerve for me was it's safe to have fun, like wow, like even saying that I just you know, that's something I'm going to meditate on later because, yeah, there's something about safety around that that I'm going to explore. Very interesting, how these little things drive us and they're below the surface, right. It's not like I'm top of mind thinking of this. I'm thinking of real-time problems and that's part of the problem I have that many of the rock stars listening has, I believe, is that we're so busy in motion around the things that we've built and there's so much positive feedback.
Speaker 1:When I treated it was the cookies from the patients, right, that was the thing, but it was also the thing that held me in place from developing, because I had to let go of patient care to become a team leader, right. And then there's things that we have to let go. It reminds me of a ropes course where I've got this thing that holds me safe, but if I want to move forward, I've got to grab the next thing and let go at some point of the thing that I'm holding on to, otherwise I just keep stretching myself too thin, too far apart.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, yeah, so it's like this. Yeah, and the word worthiness right, I think, is there right. Especially, did you use the word cookies, cookies, cookie. Well, like you said that you get your cookies from wait.
Speaker 1:Is that the word you used? Did you say something else? Oh, I don't remember, I don't know. Oh, yeah, yeah, cookies, I did say cookies when I was a physical sorry, I was thinking about the ropes thing, but no that, like you know that they're patients who used to bring me cookies oh, it's actual cookies not a metaphorical cookie, like I thought it was a metaphorical cookie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no worries, I get it. But no, no, no, no, well, because I use the word. Good, I use a metaphorical cookie. Yeah, no worries, I get it but no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:Well, because I use the word good, I use a metaphorical goodies, right, these, um right, like your, your patients give you right this, like goody worthiness, like I did good, I'm good, I did a good job, right, right.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And when we feel dependent like part of your identity, and so, yeah, to like swing to the other rope, you have to let go and you're going to have this. You're not going to get all those that validation and you're going to be doing something new of, like, I'm hiring the staff and I've got to manage them and develop them and right, I'm not as good at that, because that's new. I know how to, I know how to help this shoulder injury, but I don't know, right, I don't know how to handle these crucial conversations when people are unhappy with their pay.
Speaker 1:It feels very unrewarding, but it only but. Once you master that there are different goodies, it's funny. Right In my world, I always use just the cookie analogy. It wasn't an analogy, just a literal description of what held me back, and now I'm realizing there are various forms of goodies Cookies to begin with as a PT and then as an owner. It was funny, because the thing that held me back then, once I finally figured out how to build a team, was adoration for my team. I went from being despised by my team and, honestly, mostly because I wasn't a great leader, but the other half was because I wasn't hiring the right people. And then, when I finally hired the right people, it was an exaggerated form of praise. And then I sold the company because I was ready to start more B2B and it just evolved.
Speaker 1:The only thing I can tell you I've learned, Stacey, that I want my rock starters to listen to, is that the goodies become are limiting, Like there's something that's good about them, of course, but what I've come to learn at the end is that if I don't create internal validation without needing cookies or goodies, then once I that's what's been strengthened over those cycles, Cause you know it used to be actual cookies, then it was, you know, physical praise, and then you know sometimes it's money, and then at the end of the day it's like no. The reason I think I've been able to keep progressing is because over time that eight-year-old is starting to see more of himself and not need mom and dad and the sisters and brothers to see him, and that's me kind of realizing that. And so I just think when we can generate that internally, that's when maybe we calm down a little.
Speaker 2:I know it definitely helps you calm down overall. Yep, totally yeah, because we get this inherent worth right and it's no longer dependent on the externals, and then you can really play and have fun, because when you truly play, it's not about the outcomes, it's about being in the process, wow. And then you turn business into the play and you're just on a playground having fun.
Speaker 1:What would that look like, stacey, if we looked at our businesses like a playground? Yeah, and it wasn't like life or death or survival or failure, like man.
Speaker 2:All that weight just.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what would that feel like to go to work every day and just be like what do I want to do and how do I want to help people? And yeah, there's elements I think that you have to like. They're just part of the game that aren't fun, but that's just like anything else. No one probably likes to get hit playing football right, like no one wants to get hit hard by a baseball that's badly pitched or all those risks of injury that exist. But it's still a game, right. And when we can play it and have fun, we don't even worry about those things because we're not about outcomes or what-ifs.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly, yeah, so that fear just kind of evaporates from our system and we can be more present and, yeah, enjoy life and have more fun.
Speaker 1:Well, clearly, I think this is an incredible demonstration. We talked a little bit about like what you see, and then you used me as a material right To help kind of demonstrate what you do, and I can't thank you enough. That was transformative, and I don't use that word lightly. And the next question might be a little bit more useful for people who are listening going yeah, how do I, how do I get that? So you know, in the case where you are working with people, what are the different ways that you serve your entrepreneurs to help identify and eliminate these mental blocks?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I work with them one-on-one, so, which would have basically looked like part of our discussion without other people listening. Yeah, so we could just do like one-on-one sessions and I have packages and all that fun stuff. And then I also do this online group. We meet every Thursday at noon Eastern time and I do group coaching. So it's small group, but I think because it's small and everybody in there is great, we can get just as deep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was my question how does that look in a group sense compared to one-on-one? So they have to build safety with each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have that built-in safety and which is, you know, which might feel a little weird, you know. I know like a new person like, oh, I don't know, they all know each other, but because it is so safe and I usually don't get like an influx of a lot of people at a time, you know, as when a new person does join, everybody's so welcoming and the fact that they're sharing, then that new person feels really safe, like, okay, this is the space I can, you know, open up in. So and I find that group thing to. You know, you benefit either way from individual and group, but that group has that component of listening to other people's vulnerabilities and it makes you feel less alone. And I run it on an app.
Speaker 2:That kind of functions like a Facebook group, so there's ongoing support all the time, so my clients are able to like go in and post and you know they can say like, oh, this thing happened and I'm, you know, spinning out or whatever it is, or even if it's just sharing a win, like I did this hard thing today. I put myself out there and I made a mistake and I'm not beating myself up, you know. It can be like big or small. So really I see it as not just the coaching but like creating a community around that inner growth that then supports the business growth as well.
Speaker 1:I agree with you. Obviously, what you're doing is at a much higher level because you're talking about core mindset setting with leaders and helping them remove these barriers and blocks, and the reason, by the way, rockstar is the reason I think that's so valuable. I've had great privilege of working with a number of coaches. As everyone knows who's listened to this, I've never not had a coach in the last 20 years. I've had therapists, all these things, and I can tell Stacey is in that top 1% of the best I've worked with, because when you can change your mindset, it's almost like the how-to and the what-to-dos just totally take care of themselves.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Oh my God, I'm so glad you said that. Yes, because that's another block right. We focus on the. Can I swear on here or no?
Speaker 1:You can. If you want, that's fine. I want you to be yourself.
Speaker 2:I can censor myself if you want.
Speaker 1:No, but.
Speaker 2:I'll censor myself. So I had to F the how and allow so to not focus on the how, because that's where we get into this rigid mindset. We're like how do I do this? How do I get more clients, how do I get this staff member to behave properly? How do I motivate them to do their job Right? And then we're really stressed out. But then by shifting that mindset, and then we start to learn to relax and allow, and the answer is just you're literally ordering a coffee and like the answer is like, oh yeah, like it's right there.
Speaker 1:I had that. I had this one experience with a coach years ago. That was the first experience that I had living what you just talked about and this coach. I was with this person and, like my mindset shifted which it did today with you, by the way, stacey but in this case it was my first time and so I had this mindset shift For the next time, for the next phase of growth. I remember describing it like a hot knife through butter. It used to be like this coal block of rock that was frozen. The butter was frozen hard and I had this really dull knife and I was trying to cut it off because I needed it. That was work, but then, like all of a sudden, that block of butter had been in the microwave and then my knife had been heated and it was a sharp knife and I just would barely put the effort and it would just effortlessly cut. And that's the type of deep work that you provide in a way that is phenomenal.
Speaker 1:And I want to validate the group coaching thing as well, as someone who does group coaching to help people hire physical therapists. It's one of the group coaching programs that I have. It's a low offering for me, but it's something I love to do. We work on mindset, but we also have learned that people, when they work with together, once they get safe, they are able to go deeper, I think, with a group. And then there's this immediate validation of, wow, we're all struggling in this together. Maybe I don't need to be so hard on myself and, oh, I could do this. I can share this positive win and help other people. There's an altruistic nature in group coaching, and then they have their own wins that the therapist or the leader of the coach would never have thought of, because they're not in the weeds in the same way.
Speaker 1:So I believe, like you, that group coaching can be an exponential way of bettering our people, because then we're building our network. And, just so you know, the core theme of this show is that helping people build their network is the quickest way of building their net worth, emotionally and financially. It's all about who we know. So I love what you bring to the table, stacey my gosh. So tell me about specific programs. What do you have coming up for your business?
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah. So I do have a special thing coming up in a couple of weeks, which I know will have already happened.
Speaker 1:I'm going to rush editing this episode and I'm going to push it out before that. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2:I've changed my mind.
Speaker 1:You got this knife all hot, so I'm cutting through things really quick.
Speaker 2:Promote it Amazing. Okay, so the first full week of November, I'm running this low-t ticket offer special $39 and called the Visible Entrepreneur. So we're going to hop on Zoom Monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday for 30 minutes and I'm going to. We're going to talk about the common mindset blocks around becoming more visible mindset blocks around becoming more visible.
Speaker 2:And, since I do it on the app that functions like a Facebook group, I'm going to encourage people to do uncomfortable things like post a picture or even a video with their bio, or like work on selling themselves, putting themselves out there, and it's going to be focused on where each person is, you know, in their journey. So maybe, maybe you're already a pro at that and you're used to putting yourself out on social media, so maybe it's like, okay, what, when's the next networking group, or what is that bigger business or client that you really want to go after? And you haven't reached out to them yet. So, really, kind of you know working through those scary blocks. So I have that that's a fun thing coming up, that I'm really excited about.
Speaker 1:When is that launch? When does that?
Speaker 2:launch November 4th that Monday. So it'll be that Monday through Thursday.
Speaker 1:Okay, so November 4th Today is October 25th as we're doing this, so I will work on editing this and get this out, hopefully Tuesday, I'll see if I can do a turnaround. It may not happen, but if this, for whatever reason, doesn't launch by that time, entrepreneurs, I just want to give Stacey my praise and thanks for being here today and encourage you if any part of this resonated, if you're at this point listening, because you were with me in that personal journey and you personally related to this honor what you're hearing and feeling and just reach out to her to learn more about how that works and what that would look like to get that kind of mindset setting. How do people get a hold of you, stacey?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm everywhere.
Speaker 1:It's easy to find me oh, she's on my partner, it's easy.
Speaker 2:It's easy to find me.
Speaker 1:So she's behind you right now. Listeners, Just kidding.
Speaker 2:I really am. So yeah, my website radicallifecoachcom.
Speaker 1:Radicallifecoachcom. That's a great name, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, that's fine. I have a booking, like I do a free discovery call, so where I can sit down and talk about you know what you want to accomplish, where you're at, what do you feel is in the way, and then I can tell you what I would do to help you get there. And then you can decide, like, is that something I want to invest in or not? And then, yeah, it could look like the one-on-one, it could look like the group. So, yeah, my website. I'm on social, stacey Steinmiller on LinkedIn, on Facebook, the Radical Evolution on Instagram, so I'm easily findable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, I can't thank you enough. Thank you so much for being a part of this special episode today and, rock stars, thank you again for tuning in, as always, I'm so grateful that I've built this relationship with you, as I've been able to share some of these personal things, and I hope one of your main takeaways is just the idea of the importance of being authentic and real and sharing maybe that part of our cactus that we're embarrassed about, because I think that's the part that we relate to the most. So thanks again for tuning in. Guys, until next time.
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